Episode 8

Episode 8 – Customizing LLMs Using No-Code Tools & Using AI for Automation

Key Takeaways

  • AI can rank and cross-reference public claims against actions at scale — useful for spotting inconsistencies a person would take hours to find manually.
  • Fine-tuning an LLM on your own brand voice turns it from a generic chatbot into something closer to a specialized consultant.
  • No-code platforms like Make.com, Zapier, and N8N let non-developers connect tools like Google, Microsoft, Airtable, and Slack into real automation pipelines.
  • AI isn’t the right fit everywhere — for some businesses (like a dating app for a specific community) human-to-human trust is the actual product.
  • Some of AI’s highest-ROI uses are unglamorous: a short PowerShell script for file cleanup can save real time on every single episode.
  • Before a big presentation, AI can help anticipate the audience’s likely questions — turning prep time into rehearsal time.

Main Topics

1AUTOMATE THE BUSY WORK

See how no-code tools turn manual email and CRM tasks into a hands-off pipeline.

2GIVE YOUR AI A VOICE

Learn how fine-tuning an LLM on your brand turns it into a real consultant, not just a chatbot.

3KNOW WHEN NOT TO

Discover why the right call is sometimes keeping AI out of the product entirely.

Featured Guests

Jim Beach

Uses AI to rank public figures on claimed values versus real actions, and to analyze business plans for blind spots that haven’t been fully thought through.

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Joe Massa

Went from a hamster wheel of busy work to a streamlined operation by fine-tuning LLMs on his brand voice and automating flows with no-code tools.

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Nicky Wake

Deliberately keeps AI out of her dating app for the over-50 community, betting on human vetting and authenticity over automated matching.

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Meet the Hosts

Elizabeth Gearhart
Elizabeth Gearhart, Ph.D.Chief Marketing Officer, Gearhart Law

Elizabeth Gearhart, Ph.D. is the host of Real AI Use Cases: Business Owners Roundtable, where she explores how businesses are actually putting AI to work. She is also CMO of Gearhart Law and co-host of the nationally syndicated Passage to Profit radio show and podcast.

Richard Gearhart
Richard Gearhart, Esq.Founding Partner, Gearhart Law

Richard Gearhart, Esq. is co-host of Real AI Use Cases: Business Owners Roundtable and founder of Gearhart Law, a full-service intellectual property law firm. A longtime podcaster, he hosts Intellectual Property News and is the host of the nationally syndicated Passage to Profit radio show and podcast.

Whether it’s ranking celebrities, automating a CRM, or deciding to keep AI out entirely, the panel agrees AI is becoming as ubiquitous as the personal computer — but the human touch is still what closes the deal.

Episode Summary

Frequently Asked Questions

What does it mean to “fine-tune” an LLM like ChatGPT or Claude?
It means training the AI on your own brand voice, past content, or specific expertise so it responds more like a specialized consultant for your business than a generic chatbot.
What are no-code automation tools like Make.com, Zapier, and N8N used for?
They let you connect different software — like Google, Microsoft, Airtable, and Slack — into automated workflows without writing code, so tasks like form submissions or email sequences run on their own.
Is AI always the right fit for a business?
Not necessarily. This episode features a business owner who deliberately avoids AI in her dating app because her community values authentic, human-vetted connections over automated matching.
Can non-technical business owners really automate their operations?
Yes — no-code platforms are built specifically so business owners without a coding background can connect tools and eliminate repetitive manual work themselves.
How can AI help with public speaking or presentations?
AI can review your presentation content and generate likely audience questions ahead of time, helping you walk in more prepared instead of guessing what will come up.

Episode Recap

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Jim Beach – Ranking Claims Against Actions: Jim uses ChatGPT to rank public figures on two lists — how much they talk about a cause versus how much they’re actually involved in it — to surface real discrepancies. He applies the same lens internally, using AI to review business and marketing plans and flag the blind spots that haven’t been fully thought through.

Joe Massa – From Busy Work to Real Automation: Joe built systems that automate responses, email sequences, and form submissions straight into his CRM, eliminating what he calls the daily “hamster wheel” of repetitive tasks. He fine-tunes LLMs like Claude and ChatGPT to reflect his brand voice rather than sound like a generic chatbot, and connects tools like Google, Microsoft, Airtable, and Slack using no-code platforms including Make.com, Zapier, and N8N.

Nicky Wake – Choosing Not to Use AI: Nicky’s dating app for the over-50 demographic intentionally leaves AI out of the matching experience — she believes human-to-human connection is what her community actually needs. She acknowledges AI could help screen for scammers, but prefers a personal vetting process, and notes that AI-written dating profiles are becoming easier, not harder, to spot.

Richard Gearhart – Small Automations, Real Time Savings: Richard had ChatGPT write a PowerShell script to clean up junk files and rename media files for Passage to Profit, saving about 30 minutes per episode. He also uses AI to draft first-pass YouTube scripts, then rewrites them so the final version still sounds like him.

Elizabeth Gearhart – Prepping for Podfest: Elizabeth used ChatGPT, Google Gemini, and Perplexity together while developing her presentation for the Podfest Expo, and — on a tip from the organizers — had ChatGPT analyze the deck and generate likely audience questions ahead of time.

Closing Thoughts: The group lands on a shared read: AI is quickly becoming as ubiquitous as the personal computer. It’s a serious force multiplier for automation and efficiency, but keeping a genuine human touch and personal voice is still what separates a business that uses AI well from one that just sounds like AI.

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